Montreal, Saturday January 10 2004, 10h 02 am
John,
Let's try it this way.
- Put on the site somewhere another version of your wiki. Just put one or two pages in; possibly pages with a lot of text.
- Make your edit box exactly the same size and the same look as your view page (in other words identical).
Have you looked at the link I posted on editable page? It's a proof of concept, so it's fairly plain, but you can imagine there being menus and ugly gray bars to the left of the text. But that's the concept: you double click (or somehow enable edit mode) and then you can edit the page, without loading a new page.
- You still can't save. Can you try my way? If you could do the items I am asking you above. - ar
No, I know you can't save. I'm still working on it; have patience.
When this is done, leave me the URL here and I'll give you the rest of the instructions.
- About your tilde disappearing and the centering of the title, you'll try this soon? -
Okay, I will.
- Also I have to go back to Front Page all the time to get to FW Project. It's a pain in the neck! Can you put a function called Set Page on the right of Front page? We will be able to chose a page to go to. Ex: In my case I will set it to FW Project.
You should just bookmark 
http://www.viatasso.com/fw/fw-project
instead of http://www.viatasso.com/, or
whatever URL you've bookmarked to get here.
- It wouldn't be a bad idea to put the same bottom menu on the top over the title.
Yes, I'll look into that. I'll probably redesign the site some time soon, so when I do that I'll play around with different menu placements and such.
- No need to redesign everything. Just do a few things at a time! - ar
Now would be a good time to remind me about your static menu idea. ;-)
- When did I mention a static menu idea to you? I'll send you one you'll love — ar
Thanks!
— ar
Montreal, Sunday 11 January 2004, 9h 51 am
I can't teach you programming but I certainly can't teach you a few working methods and elements of good work ethics.
Please re-read this page. Then answer one simple question: what is the point for me of asking you questions or to post requests since they are being unanswered?
Perhaps the best thing for me is to ask questions to my wall. It's much simpler. At least i don't have to type them!
Never mind your entering text in the beginning or middle of the page. Please write in the end to give a summary like I do.
You have a way to work and a perspective I entirely disagree with. Nothing is ever done, no question is answered. Standstill.
If there is too much friction between us in the next days, we should call it quits. We might not be a good fit you and I.
— ar
I'm not sure what the problem is. I have answered your questions. /files/editablePage/demo/editablePage.html
is a demo of the concept. No, it doesn't have a save button yet, or really much
of anything, but it will. I'm working on implementing all that stuff right now.
(If you want to see my working copy, remove the /demo from that
link. But my working copy is very likely to be broken or unusable at any
particular moment.)
Once I finish this, then I'll see what I can do about integrating it into my wiki, or wherever. It wouldn't be worth the effort right now to try to integrate this partial implementation with my wiki.
By the way, I just updated this wiki so that the most recent changes on a page are highlighted. That should make it easier to see where the other person has made changes.
Please be patient. The first thing you suggested to me when we first started talking was the idea of in-place edits, so that's what I'm working on. Since then you've asked me to work on all kinds of things, from the DOW to fixing my wiki to installing Phorum, etc. Have patience! I'm only one person; I can only get so much done each day. I'll get to those things in good time.
The best thing to do while you wait would be to keep on writing things here. Keep going even if I'm not able to keep up. If you wait for me at every step to get something done, it will be very frustrating, yes. So in the mean time go ahead and flesh out your ideas here, write up pages explaining what you want and what you've been thinking about. That will be much better than having conversations like this where we stall waiting for the other person to reply.